Mount Carmel High to remain an all-boys school

In June, school leaders said they were considering admitting girls as soon as fall 2023 as a way to address “elusive growth” for single-gender Catholic schools.

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rickster2334
rickster2334
47 · 8 days ago · Reddit

But nobody had really posited an argument against them except “that just feels weird in 2022”. It’s not like we’re doing separate but equal, all the parents are making an informed choice for their children.

And it’s not impossible to fathom some benefits for girls at a single sex school to have more opportunities in a smaller setting. I’d say growing up as a kid is incredibly difficult but the world puts more pressure on girls. Studies have shown that single sex education can be beneficial and it’s not that hard to imagine that a single sex school setting can eliminate issues of harassment, abuse, and other factors impacting education.

It’s not that weird, it’s really just an alternative approach to education like Montessori that parents can choose to join.

TelephoneVisible4500
TelephoneVisible4500
27 · 8 days ago · Reddit

Mount Carmel’s enrollment has fallen from 806 students in 2002 to 580 students, and the Archdiocese of Chicago has lost half its students since 2002.

Those enrollment trends are challenging, I feel for the school's leadership and families. 200 plus kids not in your building anymore is a massive blow to the budget, and it's not like you can get current families to pony up 30% more in tuition and fees to cover the hole. In metro Detroit, the prestigious Orchard Lake St. Mary's (Catholic) Prep just went co-ed two or so years ago. Maybe they're a peer school Carmel leaders can keep an eye on over the next couple of years to see how it plays out for them.

optiplex9000
optiplex9000
23 · 8 days ago · Reddit

I'm not Catholic and went to a public school, but I fail to understand any argument why a high school should be kept to a single gender. Surely being able to interact with the people of the opposite sex everyday would be beneficial to social learning

TRex_N_Truex
TRex_N_Truex
16 · 8 days ago · Reddit

I went to an all boys HS and all I got out of it was stunted growth at how to act around women. But hey there at least there were no distractions to keep me from being a C student.

btmalon
btmalon
16 · 8 days ago · Reddit

Lol everyone in this thread arguing about the validity of all boys schools has no idea what Mt. Caramel is. It’s a sports institute/​cult with a school attached to it. Their brand is athletics first and small class sizes so your dumbass kid will get plenty of hands on learning in order to graduate.

Regardless it seems like the administration put very little effort in becoming coed and thought they could do so at the flip of a switch. The delay is probably going to save them from some terrible scandal.

Potential-Ad1618
Potential-Ad1618
8 · 8 days ago · Reddit

For those saying it’s stupid- think about the shit that went down in the hallways of my all boys high school. Hilarious memories that I wouldn’t trade in order to see girls in class. Most gender specific high schools have a sister/​brother school anyways

james_randolph
james_randolph
8 · 8 days ago · Reddit

I went to St. Joseph and we were all boys with IHM across the field being our sister school. We would have some co-ed classes but maybe like 2/​3 specific elective type classes. Now, when I was a senior, IHM closed down and we became co-ed. Only having a year left, it wasn’t that much of a transition but it still felt like compressing 4yrs or co-ed high school into 1yr haha. I actually didn’t mind being all boys, we still interacted with the girls after school/​events/​etc but there was just a different vibe with all boys and for me actually just made focusing on school little easier. Unfortunately Joe’s shut their doors for good this past year, was one of the best.

GungHo76
GungHo76
5 · 8 days ago · Reddit

They should have released some data before making it an opinion poll. Id be interested to see the standardized test scores, grade point averages and disciplinary records of folks in both public and coed private schools in the same or similar zip codes.

I’d wager single sex private schools place more kids in better schools at the end of the day. The Catholic schools don’t release that data. They should. It may help their case to keep places like MC filled with kids.