LA renters rally for eviction protection as COVID state of emergency ends

A group rallied downtown Los Angeles this morning, calling for continuing renter protection to prevent evictions as the tenant protections reach their end.

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FlyingNachoz
FlyingNachoz
448 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Genuinely curious, were these people thinking they’d have free housing forever and not have to pay it back?

peacock_head
peacock_head
302 · 20 days ago · Reddit

There needs to be a large scale overhaul of housing in LA (cough, the country) but this isn’t the solution and simply digs people who haven’t been paying rent further into the pit. I think very few landlords believe they will ever get paid the rent that they lost out on, but people who didn’t pay and who still aren’t need to move on to other places if they can’t afford where they are renting. If you still can’t pay three years later, it seems clear you need to do something differently.

TommyFX
TommyFX
285 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Tenants who have missed payments since March 2020 will have to meet two repayment deadlines. Under state law, they have until Aug. 1, 2023, to pay back missed rent between March 1, 2020, and Sept. 30, 2021. Under the city's moratorium, tenants will have until Feb. 1, 2024, to repay rent accumulated from Oct. 1, 2021 to Feb. 1, 2023

Good luck with this...

picturesofbowls
picturesofbowls
278 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I supported this for 2020. Probably even 2021. Unsure how this is justifiable in 2023.

thatlawlessgirl
thatlawlessgirl
157 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Sorry. As a renter in LA that wasn’t able to work for 8 months in 2020 and has never made the same money as before the pandemic: it’s time to get rid of the 2020 protections. In 2023 it’s just not justifiable now. It’s also making it stupid hard to move into a new place unless you make 6 figures each person because landlords are so gun shy of renting to gig workers that I’ve been stuck in a shithole for 3 years longer than I would have normally been. This moratorium was never supposed to last forever and it needs to end for the city housing situation to get any better

IsraeliDonut
IsraeliDonut
95 · 20 days ago · Reddit

What was the plan to prevent eviction? Keep hoping to not pay rent?

Even currently they have set dates for repayment

partytillidei
partytillidei
84 · 20 days ago · Reddit

You had 3x checks at $1400, + unemployment + unemployment bonus during covid + Joe Biden forgiving under $10k on taxes, + the highest unemployment statistics with plenty of jobs available + wages going up during this time + the extension from 2022 to 2023.

This has been MORE than forgiving. This is NOT the system, you have been absolutely awful and irresponsible at handling money.

hifidood
hifidood
71 · 20 days ago · Reddit

The "we never want to pay our back rent" crowd are just making mom and pop landlords who are more forgiving on things / pricing sell to big corporate landlords who will absolutely raise prices on you and not give a shit about your feelings. Good job LA making corporations own all the housing!

poli8999
poli8999
62 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I blame the state and city for this tbh. They let it go longer than they should’ve and people took advantage.

tob007
tob007
59 · 20 days ago · Reddit

"Council members Eunisses Hernandez and Hugo Soto-Martinez filed an amending motion to cancel the state of emergency end date"

Yo I hear your emergencies like emergencies. How many ongoing emergencies we got now? Do they just stack like UNO cards?

i_like_all_tech
i_like_all_tech
53 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I can't help but wonder if the insanely massive deposits I'm seeing aren't part of the blowback from this.

We need protections to make housing accessible but many of these programs just end up getting passed on as a cost to everyone else

captainhook77
captainhook77
53 · 20 days ago · Reddit

The tenant protections in LA are already ridiculously high. This eviction moratorium also last at least 12 months too long. At some point people have to realize that these policies have just helped widen the gap between smaller landlords and huge institutions, with of course the former taking the biggest hit.

gunbladerookie
gunbladerookie
32 · 20 days ago · Reddit

These worthless free loaders shouldn’t be allowed to rent in this city again. Move and find a place you can actually afford

goosewut123
goosewut123
32 · 20 days ago · Reddit

It's been 1023 days since 15 days to slow the spread and 860 days since the CDC established their eviction moratorium.

These protections were supposed to be common sense measures that provided stability to the people amid fears of massive job losses, but the data is out and the majority of losses remain in place for property owners, while jobs have rebounded beyond the wildest fears of our politicians.

The politicians feigned their enthusiasm for being able to navigate their way through science and data throughout the pandemic, but it's clear that they've only ignored the data and catered to their inane fears; so much for following that science and data. 🤷

CordialWolf
CordialWolf
26 · 19 days ago · Reddit

I don’t understand the current trend where people’s problems are not their fault, and everyone else needs to pay to make it right, i.e., if I didn’t pay rent for two years, I can’t imagine protesting as if I’m the one being mistreated. Just ridiculous.

310dweller
310dweller
26 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Having people who live and work in LA is a great thing and we do need to build more housing to make it affordable for people who do said two things.

The eviction moratorium was a pretty brutal way to gum up housing inventory (low supply = high rents), economically deplete mom-and-pop landlords, create extremely hesitant new leasing policies and drain resources. I'd much rather see the freeloading come to a halt and a new program that helps low income (but still FT) workers afford homes close to their jobs. If you're not contributing anything to our local economy I'm not sure what entitles a person to suck money out of it..

The politicians know ending this will lead to an increase in people on our streets, hence why Garcetti kicked the can down the road until he was out. Which means ending this problem exacerbates one that is already a huge flashpoint and being handled fairly ineptly.

mdelao17
mdelao17
25 · 19 days ago · Reddit

The city let this ride for too long. This should have stopped on Dec 31, 2021. Insanity that it has gone on this long.

chookatee2019
chookatee2019
25 · 20 days ago · Reddit

It sounds heartless but if you can't pay your rent how is it fair to make the property owner just eat the cost? Move out and go somewhere more-affordable (if you can find it). We're just moving the responsibility from one person who can't afford it to another. If that landlord loses their building then who do you think will buy the property? A large corp. They're all getting into the housing business so they can remove mom and pop landlords. I guarantee you that they will be MUCH worse to deal with.

olympic87
olympic87
24 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Add in ULA and now almost all of the mom and pop landlords are selling. Well done politicians!

tryingnew757
tryingnew757
23 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Those losers need to get a job. Everywhere is hiring.

ElBigKahuna
ElBigKahuna
23 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I know someone who filed for Covid rent relief and spent all the money (about $30K), on frivolous things. Thats not even taking into account the PPP fraudsters I know who also gained $$$ and don't have a dime anymore. So much fraud and people taking advantage of these protections and programs, enough is enough.

citznfish
citznfish
23 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I wAnT My FrEe ReNt!

They don't care who it hurts. To them Landlords are evil and should let them live rent free.

There are plenty of ways to keep a roof over your head if you can't afford your existing rent.

waerrington
waerrington
21 · 20 days ago · Reddit

This is why real estate developers in California have shifted huge amounts of capital out of state. The fact that this has lasted this long and city councilors are still trying to extend it makes building anything in Los Angeles extremely unappealing.

JosephusLloydShaw
JosephusLloydShaw
20 · 19 days ago · Reddit

"please keep letting us live somewhere for free without paying rent even though we're perfectly capable of paying it!"

what a fucking joke. and fuck the city for letting this bullshit go on far long than it should have. this was necessary in 2020 and parts of 2021, but basically everything has been back to normal now since the summer of 2021. LA knew it had a mess on its hands and was too scared to clean it up

DodgerTurtle
DodgerTurtle
19 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I get that poor / desperate people don’t have a lot of choices in life and when there’s one that has given them a lot of security in life and probably let them live a much better life than before it, they’re gonna do anything they can to hang on to it.

But also, the expectation that someone gets to live somewhere rent free— especially when they had 3 years to get their stuff in order— is fucking insane.

The consequences of this is we’re gonna see a lot of people who landlords will no longer rent to, so I dunno if people are willing to accept what comes of that. But still, those people don’t get to live somewhere with no need to pay rent forever.

Devario
Devario
16 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I don’t think people should get away with not paying rent…

However, as someone who has paid rent on time every month for my entire life, I think good renters deserve more than a maybe capped rent increase and a neutral credit score.

Renting is pretty thankless.

In a time where it feels like so many grifters seem to get by so easily, there needs to be more upside to contributing positively to society otherwise the whole thing falls apart. And a credit score ain’t it.

grandpabento
grandpabento
15 · 20 days ago · Reddit

All this does is kick the can even further down the road. The State and City/​County created this issue through what at the time were needed policies at the height of the Pandemic, but then did nothing towards creating programs to ease people back into "normalcy" (which I put in quotes because what can we define as normal at this point). They essentially created a ticking bomb and refuse to do anything towards defusing the situation.

goyongj
goyongj
14 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Because of these people, you are paying way more ☺️

FREE housing is a human right 😂

lekker-boterham
lekker-boterham
14 · 20 days ago · Reddit

Comment section absolutely passes the vibe check. It’s past time to evict a lot of these covid-era people who still aren’t paying rent

tacos_n_cerveza
tacos_n_cerveza
11 · 19 days ago · Reddit

How does anyone expect new affordable housing to be built if non-paying tenants cannot be evicted?

MyPeeIsSyrupish
MyPeeIsSyrupish
11 · 20 days ago · Reddit

It should've ended a year ago. No such thing as free lunch, and no such thing as free rent.

The government gave us money to pay our bills during lockdown. If someone wasted theirs then tough titties. No mulligans. I paid mine with it. Now back to the social contract.

TheWilsons
TheWilsons
5 · 20 days ago · Reddit

I have such mix feelings about the end of eviction protection and ultimately think it's a case by case basis and there should neither be blanket protection or evictions.

I have family that rented and also family that were landlords so got to see both sides.

There are literal PoS big time landlords and even smaller mom and pop landlords that run their rentals like slumlords.

However, there are also slumlords that abuse, lower income tenants. Do the minimum repairs, raise rent every chance they get even above legal limits, have stupid broken end of life washers that don't work and eat your coins, the list goes on and on.

Like all things in life it is neither black or white but grey, and ideally the courts should decide on a case by case basis, but due to judicial backlog that is it's own monster. Ultimately no easy solution and sadly no one can agree on any path forward.