'I decided to leave,' says one international CEGEP student as Bill 96 looms

Protecting French is worthwhile, but Bill 96 will do more harm than good, warned students at English CEGEPS. "I actually decided to leave because I just don’t see myself learning French within two years," said one international student.

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Timmyofficial
Timmyofficial
127 · 12 days ago · Reddit

À titre informatif, en Catalogne les étudiants étrangers sont obligés de prendre des cours de catalan.

AnodicElegy
AnodicElegy
124 · 12 days ago · Reddit

Regardless of one's opinion on Bill 96, there's no reason Québec should be designing its education system to cater to the desires of international students.

EyeLikeTheStonk
EyeLikeTheStonk
122 · 13 days ago · Reddit

Not understanding that Quebec's only obsession is the survival of the french language in North America shows a lack of understanding of what Quebec stands for.

This is the one thing that will never, ever go away; the unrelentless fight for french. It is even becoming stronger in the new generations, fueled by a worldwide wave of national cultural revival across the planet.

It is not a right-wing movement only either, the Left is strong with identity politics. As people of many ethnicity raise their voices through several "history months" or "Heritage month" (Black, Asians, Indigenous, Hispanic, Women's, disability...), the Quebecois follow in those footsteps.

It would not be a surprise to see Canada eventually declare a "French heritage month".

Either people accept that the language issue will remain a cornerstone of Quebec politics and life or they should seek their fortune elsewhere.

It is not an ultimatum to anyone, just an explanation of reality.

traboulidon
traboulidon
78 · 12 days ago · Reddit

Oh non! Pas prendre quelques cours de français quand on reste dans la seule province francophone du continent nord-américain! C’est horrible! Je me demande bien ou ils auraient pu s’installer pour étudier 100% en anglais?

Me, myself, I actually decided to leave because I just don’t see myself learning French within two years."

Imaginez vouloir quitter un endroit car tu ne veux pas apprendre la langue des gens locaux. Des cours d’ailleurs qui te permettront de voyager, connaître une nouvelle culture et élargir tes horizons.

wowestiche
wowestiche
43 · 13 days ago · Reddit

West Islands folks be like : 2 years in prison > 2 years learning french. Also, should I care about what this ONE international student thinks?

Maephia
Maephia
30 · 12 days ago · Reddit

"Me, myself, I actually decided to leave because I just don’t see myself learning French within two years."

Si t'es pas capable d'apprendre une langue en deux ans dans une situation d'IMMERSION désolé mais faut que t'aille faire tester tes capacités cognitives. En immersion avoir une maîtrise de la langue suffisante pour travailler ça prends même pas un an. Je le sais, je l'ai fait.

bighak
bighak
29 · 12 days ago · Reddit

I don't see why Quebec needs any international cegep students that do not want to speak french. Millions of people want to immigrate here, we should only open spots to people who can hold a conversation in french. We need to close all these backdoors.

__n01z3
__n01z3
21 · 12 days ago · Reddit

What is the big deal?

For info, French Quebecers also need to take obligatory English classes.

Sortez votre tête du sable et prenez des cours de français!

not-a-bear-in-a-wig
not-a-bear-in-a-wig
21 · 12 days ago · Reddit

I grew up in Montreal as an Anglophone going to an English school. International students aside, every person in the English schools who I speak with agrees that the French lessons in those schools are horrible. I took them for almost 10 years and walked away with almost zero French. Quebec should really be working on making that early education much better if they want the Anglo community to at least speak French.

Smothier
Smothier
19 · 12 days ago · Reddit

Je veux habiter en Montréal et je comprends totalement que je dois apprendre français. J’étudie et je pratiqué tous les jours, je lis des journaux français. Il y a six ans et j’ai niveau A2. Le français n’est pas une langue simple mais je continuer de l’apprendre.

Malheureusement, chaque fois quand j’ai visite Montréal et essayer de parler en français, l’autre personne change à anglais. Les personnes n’ont pas de patience pour aider les autres, dans mon expérience. C’est une problème.

shiftyshift7
shiftyshift7
18 · 13 days ago · Reddit

Just like a great men once said:"Some will have to leave".

If you refuse to learn french and live in Québec... you're not living in the right place. The audacity of this guy to think that a whole nation should bend-over for him because he's lazy.

montrealbro
montrealbro
16 · 12 days ago · Reddit

I mean, I get why Quebec wants the law, I get why algos don't like the law...

...but you gotta admit, this law basically dealt with the whole using CEGEP as a gateway to stay in Canada thing in one big swoop. No more foeigners getting a cheap (relatively) CEGEP degree, and then staying in Canada doing whatever, Quebec or other provinces.

Archeob
Archeob
13 · 12 days ago · Reddit

Then leave.
People like you who stay here just make it harder for the rest of us, bending over to accommodate your inability/​refusal to communicate in the language of your coworkers.
It's an old stereotype but it's still true today: If we're ten francophones in a meeting and one single anglophone joins then everything has to be done in english. Basically, just like in this sub.
Francophones by birth in Ontario and the Rest of Canada are 98% bilingual. It's a pity the same respect doesn't go both ways.

toin9898
toin9898
12 · 12 days ago · Reddit

Why are people acting like it’s not already mandatory to take French classes in CÉGEP? I had to take at least two and pass an exam (which, admittedly was a joke).

If I would have had to take courses unrelated to the French language in French I would have done my grade 12 and left the province.

Faut remarquer que je suis pas angryphone du tout, mais être forcé de rédiger des textes dans ma deuxième langue aura pu affecter ma cote-R et mon futur académique. J’ai toujours eu de bonnes notes en français et je me débrouille assez bien mais à mon avis, loi 96 n’adresse pas le vrai problème: que la manière dont que le français est enseigné au Québec dans le système anglophone est pourrit. J’ai lu mon premier roman (pour un cours) au CÉGEP (!!). Et seulement par ce que j’étais dans un cours “avancé ”. Inacceptable. J’ai pas grandi dans le West Island non plus. C’est partout au Québec dans le système anglophone qu’on passe 12-13ans à apprendre les trois mêmes conjugaisons de verbe et à écrire des phrases ultra-simples.

djeidbur
djeidbur
5 · 12 days ago · Reddit

Oh no!!! What are we going to do without such an important person!! Nooooo

lord_ive
lord_ive
5 · 12 days ago · Reddit

I think that while there is an argument to be made for refugees who don’t speak French to be given a bit more leeway than what Loi 96 provides (currently they have 6 months to learn the language), if you move to or live in Quebec you kind of have to acknowledge the reality that you need to know French in order to be able to participate in society. Even if all language laws were cancelled today, it would still be generations before you could get away wholly with English, especially outside Montréal.