Minority professor denied grants because he hires on merit: 'People are afraid to think'

'I don't care about the colour of your skin. I'm interested in hiring someone who wants to work on the project and is good at it,' Prof. Patanjali Kambhampati…

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Nywroc
Nywroc
172 · 2 days ago · Reddit

Hiring on merit should never be an issue. I support equality of opportunity not of outcomes.

Sayyida_alHurra
Sayyida_alHurra
59 · 2 days ago · Reddit

This is a whole bunch of stupidity and bad politics, not unexpected from an American scientist.

He got grants rejected because he refused to fulfill some basic bureaucratic obligation that everyone else at the university is obviously having no difficulty doing. From the article it appears that all he needs to do is simply make a stated declaration that he will consider diversity in hiring or something, which he refused to do so he could make his stupid reactionary point.

Don't put your egghead politics above the health of your research program and you won't have any problems.

Bewaretheicespiders
Bewaretheicespiders
54 · 2 days ago · Reddit

J'ai beaucoup d'admiration pour ce monsieur, si vous lisez ceci, bravo pour vos convictions.

De même coup, honte a l'appareil gouvernemental fédéral qui a complètement perdu les pédales.

ChaoticSith
ChaoticSith
53 · 2 days ago · Reddit

"the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, gave Dr. Lana Ray, a professor at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, Ont., a $1.2-million grant to study cancer prevention using traditional Indigenous healing practices. When the award was announced, Ray said “We need to stop framing prevalent risk factors of cancer as such and start thinking about them as symptoms of colonialism.”"

This is the part that interests me. What kind of healing practices are we talking about here and why are we bringing colonialism into cancer research? Is that even relevant?

UnsuspectedGoat
UnsuspectedGoat
38 · 2 days ago · Reddit

Knowing how the engineering labs are staffed, I'm pretty sure it's a matter of gender equality rather than color of skin. I would have said that yes, finding women is hard in engineering, but chemical ? I have seen chemical engineering labs almost full with women of colors, so let me have some doubts about him hiring "based on merits".

Source: Spent way too much time in Uni labs in this city.

ActiveFrontEnd
ActiveFrontEnd
30 · 2 days ago · Reddit

This is a really hard issue. When I was younger I would have probably sided with Prof. Kambhampati, but now I don't really agree. We have seen time and time again that just the act of inclusion and diversity breed more inclusion and diversity which in turn promotes voices that we normally wouldn't have heard. He is a scientist so if he really wants to understand he should probably look into the research.

“I think what’s happened is the woke and the social justice warriors have made a moralistic argument the way the religious right used to make moralistic arguments. And now people are afraid to challenge them. But I think it’s okay to say I believe that equality is a morally valid position. I believe that meritocracy is a morally valid position.”

Sorry but using the term 'woke' and social justice warriors hurts your argument. Those are derogatory terms and not desirable for civilized discussion. Its not a religion, its math. Women make up 50% of the population, but I assume your lab is no where near 50% female. Hence why government grants probably want you to consider being more diverse.

theSKCarr
theSKCarr
17 · 2 days ago · Reddit

It seems like NSERC has been completely captured by the EDI true believers and opportunists. Look no further than their embarrassing response to the Tomas Hudlicky essay in 2020. Everyone, including the NSERC president, was quick to denounce what was a fairly standard conservative opinion.

The only way I see this changing in the short-term is if the QC government tells the federal government to stop forcing our scientists to pass these EDI purity tests. There's basically no political pressure coming from anywhere else as all the university admins are on board with the program.

Long-term, these are bad ideas and will run their course but by that point our universities will be filled with a bunch of mediocre researchers.

homme_chauve_souris
homme_chauve_souris
8 · 2 days ago · Reddit

Juger une personne selon sa race au lieu de ses mérites = être raciste.

Ce prof n'a pas eu sa subvention parce qu'il n'était pas assez raciste.

doubting_yeti
doubting_yeti
5 · 2 days ago · Reddit

These are some big claims. Odd that the only evidence to back it up is, "I’ve had two people say that was the kiss of death.” Apparently all of academia and society is crumbling because two random anonymous people said so.

udegeUpoCD
udegeUpoCD
5 · 2 days ago · Reddit

First of all, we all know how fucked up and literally shooting in the dark looking hiring is. We haven’t figured out this hiring thing, yeah it’s pretty hard. Anyone who thinks it’s easy hasn’t really done it enough and certainly anyone who thinks people hire just on merit is a dumbo (expect a reddit sub to be full of folks who have never hired a single person in their lives, and hopefully never in a position to do so. Think overpaid software engineer who thinks he is king of the world for writing some lines of code some lame ass adtech company) Yeah it’s easier to hire based on merit in some disciplines and industries relative to others but this “wE onLy Hire On MeriT” isn’t going to cut it either. That argument died 10 years ago so people be ready to have something else. Just go do a tour of STEM undergrads or even high schools and see how dismissive and sexist guys can be towards their female colleagues as well as the attitudes teachers and professors who are men can have towards them and then you got some dumbass talking about equality of opportunity or whatever. This is like the guy who is like why can’t you get an A in calculus man, just quite your job and focus on classes, easy for you to say when your dad is paying your rent and has 100k waiting for you to use in a downpayment for a condo. There is no such thing as equality of opportunity. You must be some privileged upper class white man with the endowment benefits of having had ancestors who were colonizers, slave owners and coerced their way into becoming land owners to think that.

Obesia-the-Phoenixxx
Obesia-the-Phoenixxx
5 · 2 days ago · Reddit

Not recruiting based on merit is discrimination at this point. At this point we systematically favor PoCs which kinda already taints what merit constitutes since some people were given opportunities they didn't necessarily deserve in the first place.