Only 8% of Manhattan office workers have returned in-person 5 days per week: report

The findings — compiled by the Partnership for New York City, which represents the Big Apple’s largest employers — estimated 62% of Manhattan’s office employees worked remotely during a typical weekday in late April. And just 8% — or one in 12 — showed up to work in person five days per week, the...

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WhiskyEchoTango
WhiskyEchoTango
963 · 10 days ago · Reddit

Five days is never going to happen again for most companies. My company has gone to a four day in office schedule. It's a much better deal than pizza Fridays.

friendshipperson1
friendshipperson1
383 · 10 days ago · Reddit

Sucks being the 8% but it’s what Mayor Swagger wants.

philmatu
philmatu
200 · 10 days ago · Reddit

Outside of Government, I don't know of anyone else that's back fully by mandate. In my gov't office, I've never seen the revolving door spinning so fast, nor the morale so low. On top of the requirement to come back, the few raises that have been given out are far below cost of living; for me, I haven't seen anything since 2018. The only thing that really keeps me in gov't is the amazing healthcare benefits, but even that has a price.

Dolos2279
Dolos2279
132 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Why would anyone whose job responsibilities don't require being in person go in 5 days a week? I do 3 in-person and think that's a compromise because most, if not all of the time my job can be done remote. The marginal benefits of being in person will never outweigh the benefits of not having to commute.

Pof_no
Pof_no
119 · 9 days ago · Reddit

My company tried to push us back in for four or five days a week but people were leaving in droves. Now they made it so you basically decide in the team you’re part of. I now go in maybe one or two days a week and work from home three or four days a week. My husband goes anymore but that’s because of the type of role he’s in I work in engineering where I don’t need to be in an office all the time.

I will say I grew up in New York City and I’ve been commuting and one way or another since I’m 10 years old. I don’t think I ever realized how much of a rat race I was in so much of my life. I feel like I missed out on a lot of milestone events for my older daughter because she was always at day care and I was always rushing to get to work and rushing to pick her up. Now that I’m home more I prioritize watching the ballet lessons, taking her to gymnastics and my younger daughter going to the park and having time with just her. I will never go back to commuting five days a week. I think this pandemic has made people in New York City realize that we need work life balance and I think a lot of us did not have it. And I think especially if you grew up here it’s the way we were raised I mean I commuted almost an hour each way every day to go to high school.

hjablowme919
hjablowme919
91 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I am wondering if a recession would make a significant difference in this number? Right now companies are still fighting for talent, but if the economy continues to shrink and the power shifts back to the employer, they can start specifying "no remote work" as part of the job description. Of course, the other side of that coin is if there is a recession, employers might want to stop paying for office space and just let everyone work remotely as a cost saving measure.

rolltribe
rolltribe
82 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Most people I have talked to would resign if they were forced to come back 5 days a week. I work in Finance which is arguably the industry most resistant to WFH and even here 3 days a week is the norm.

shadowdude777
shadowdude777
73 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I treat the days that I go into the office essentially as wasted days. The amount of time I spend just dicking around, talking to coworkers, moving between meeting rooms, etc, is crazy. I forgot how unproductive I used to be.

I go in by choice now when I feel like not really getting much done that day (my office has some pretty fun amenities that I really do enjoy using). When I actually want to be productive, I WFH.

Any company that is trying to force people to come back into the office is really shooting themselves in the foot. Why increase employee attrition, pay more for rent, and decrease your employees' productivity all at the same time?

mowotlarx
mowotlarx
72 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I don't know any white collar/​office workers outside of City government office workers who are back more than 3 days in office. And why would they? Productivity is the same or higher than before, office space is stupid expensive and employees clearly do not want to come back in. The Mayor and the city need to innovate and move forward or crash and burn trying to turn this back around to the way it was.

444-luck
444-luck
39 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Fuck Adams. The city agencies are hemorrhaging workers & I’m about to be one of them.

bedtyme
bedtyme
33 · 9 days ago · Reddit

As soon as my friends went back to the office a few weeks ago, they all got COVID.

Funtownn
Funtownn
27 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Going to the office.. you mean going to the building where grown adults are babysat by other older pseudo-babysitters? You're fooling yourselves if you think companies are going back to in office as a "thing". Take a look at indeed, dice, monster, etc- the smart companies have evolved and now have a nationwide pool of candidates to fill positions instead of a 45 mile radius outside their little babysitting building.

Surfif456
Surfif456
23 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Pretty sure most of those people work for the city. Being one of those people, I am seeing more turnover than ever. The young talent are leaving and old folks are retiring. It's crazy

PM_ME_YOUR_KALE
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE
21 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Thank god we forced city office workers back in 5 days a week. That really worked great to get private sector to do the same.

Just4Browsing123
Just4Browsing123
20 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I started going in once a week 3 weeks ago, just to get out of the house a bit and meet the people I've been working with for the last year. Never mind the fact that no one in the office wants to interact with each other (maybe that'll change) but the 2+ hours of commute was such a fucking waste.

bzr
bzr
17 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Now let’s get it to 100 percent remote. Even the 3 days is pointless. Adams should spend his time making the city more appealing. The construction everywhere, pot holes, homeless, litter, etc. have all been the same or getting worse for my entire life. I’m over it.

Free_Joty
Free_Joty
16 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Let’s get that same old fight brewing.

#FUCK THE OFFICE

Tiger bitch and train lover where you at?

butchudidit
butchudidit
15 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Lol (RANT) im literally the only loser in my friend group that goes in all 5 days. I also went in for the ENTIRE duration of covid when it was really rampant while everyone went into remote work settings

Also make significantly less and its getting me really dpressed. i see them on their remote laptops barely working going to “meetings” while on youtube and smoking weed

Where did i fuck up in life haha

eurtoast
eurtoast
15 · 9 days ago · Reddit

My company is 10 days in office per month for the foreseeable future. Additionally, they started summer Fridays last week (able to leave at 1pm) and if you come in on a Friday that counts as a whole day in office. The only people who are regularly going in either live very close and/​or don't have quiet working space in their homes.

CAPS_4_FUN
CAPS_4_FUN
14 · 9 days ago · Reddit

how the hell Manhattan real estate isnt crashing at the moment is beyond me

luxdesigns
luxdesigns
13 · 9 days ago · Reddit

"People are seeing a much stronger police presence in the subways."

Yes, thank goodness they're dealing with all those violent fruit vendors.

oddlyaware
oddlyaware
12 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I was formerly at a company that forced people back in 5 days a week way too soon - could not have been happier when I left. Remote/​Hybrid is the way to go.

Hrekires
Hrekires
12 · 9 days ago · Reddit

We're at 1 day/​week right now and slowly ramping up.

No one will tell us definitively what the final number is we're expecting to reach, but I set 3 days/​week as the point at which I start looking for a new job.

1 day is actually nice, cram all my important meetings into that day. 2 days is pointless but whatever. 3 days is basically spending an extra 7 hour workday commuting.

mikey-likes_it
mikey-likes_it
11 · 9 days ago · Reddit

They should stop trying to force the toothpast back in the tube and start adapting to a NYC with hybird or full time remote work.

kingcreamEAT
kingcreamEAT
11 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I was doing 5 days /week during the whole pandemic but I just gave myself a 2day/​week wfh hybrid schedule because I want to lol.

jakegh
jakegh
9 · 9 days ago · Reddit

We're rapidly entering a recession and the current environment where many people can tell any job to fuck right off is coming to its end.

In a recession there are less jobs than interested workers, the exact opposite of the past 6 months or so.

So unless you have enough money saved up to actually retire, my guess is you're gonna be commuting again sometime in the future. Maybe not if you work at Google, but the rest of us poor bastards will have to do it.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Forbes had a story about Goldman Sachs, the CEO told everybody to come into the office and only got 50% compliance. And that's Goldman Sachs, they're supposed to be terrifyingly ambitious suits. If those people won't come in, perhaps nobody will.

angiez71
angiez71
8 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I don’t understand these pols. Crying about wanting workers back in the office but pushing congestion pricing during a period of high inflation. Where’s the logic these days?

Cyril_Clunge
Cyril_Clunge
8 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I have a lot of sympathy for office workers. Fortunately I'm in an industry I enjoy and can't do WFH but I haven't set foot in an office for years. The flexible schedule is awesome and on my off days I work on my own writing which I hope to make a career. The freedom to hang out with my family, have lunch with my kids and help raise them is absolutely awesome.

We spend most of our waking hours at work. We're being pushed and squeezed with inflation and supply chain issues so why can't they give us some fucking crumbs and let people choose their schedule if it works? Sitting in an office for the sake of appearance and appeasing commercial real estate companies makes no sense. Except for money but times change and they should be able to adapt. Isn't that what the free market is supposed to do?

mezzclizcx
mezzclizcx
8 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I work in a hospital in a non patient facing position and my boss is such a boomer that even thought 90 percent of my responsibilities could be done from home she refuses to allow us to work from home. I hate this place.

brando56894
brando56894
8 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Our office opened up again last month, I haven't been back yet.

Vendevende
Vendevende
8 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Just as long as remote workers don't complain about the empty storefronts or rising retail and restaurant prices, then that's fair. But do realize that's the cost of a massively depleted day-to-day workforce population. Plus the MTA losing a bunch of normal people means the derelicts and hoodrats have the advantage. Another cost related to remote work.

People here are acting like the evil real estate investors are calling Adams at all hours of the night. You know, he also represents the the New Yorkers who don't get to work from home as well. The guy is doing the best he can to protect everyone's interests.

Amon213
Amon213
8 · 10 days ago · Reddit

This is so weird. The building I work at is at full capacity.

waruiotousan
waruiotousan
8 · 9 days ago · Reddit

What is all that Manhattan office real estate worth now?

rcas
rcas
7 · 9 days ago · Reddit

TIL city workers represent the 8% of the city’s overall workers

G00d_One
G00d_One
7 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Before the pandemic I was at an office of over 2k ppl. Even then more than half would wfh on Fridays

Electronic_Depth_697
Electronic_Depth_697
6 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I'm amazed at how amazed bosses are that their employees don't want to go back to the office. It shows how delusional these companies are. They really thought they were so were so wonderful and people loved their jobs so much they'd be anxiously waiting to go back to the office. No!!!! Most people don't! It's just that now we have a choice and before we didn't.

jojointheflesh
jojointheflesh
6 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Keep fighting for perma remote jobs. Fuck commuting. Fuck working in an office. I’m almost there and have plenty of friends who have found this. Remote work changed so many of our lives and it should be the new normal.

PerswayssickRadio
PerswayssickRadio
6 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Recently, someone posted on LinkedIn that we should all be looking forward to to commuting again. This person stated that the drive home is relaxing, and a chance to unwind. Seriously???? I've never found that to be the case....! (Nor have I found rush hour via public transportation to be "relaxing"!)

averageuhbear
averageuhbear
6 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Most people are working hybrid. My company is pure optional and most people near the office go in often, others on occasion.

My girlfriend's small office decided together on a Tuesday - Thursday week in the office.

Both are sensible and what the future holds.

sha256md5
sha256md5
6 · 9 days ago · Reddit

As someone who works in tech, I can't imagine ever again working for a company that requires me to commute even 1 day per week.

StrngBrew
StrngBrew
6 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I don’t know anyone (with an office job that is) who is back 5 days a week. But the majority of people I know are back at least a few days.

kimbolll
kimbolll
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I get emails every day for hybrid roles 2-3 days a week in office, and I scoff at them now. Three years ago, my dream was to one day have a job that I could work a day or two a week from home. How times have changed.

Edit: That said, I’m a much better all or nothing type worker. I either need to be in the office everyday or WFH everyday. If I do hybrid, the days I’m home will just be unproductive.

MyCatIsSuperChill
MyCatIsSuperChill
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Ohh no! What will we do with all of this space… in another note… rent is so high because space is just not available!

Legitimate-Donut-714
Legitimate-Donut-714
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Soooooo many listings on LinkedIn say “onsite” which is whack

Rc2194
Rc2194
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Companies that are forcing employees to be in the office 5 days a week are shooting them selves in the foot. Even seen a Pgh company post about a night of open interviews for decent paying jobs.

devolka
devolka
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Looks like it is about to be a bad time to own a lot of commercial Manhattan real estate.

Don't care.

IronPlaidFighter
IronPlaidFighter
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Our "new normal" is two days per week and you can do even less than that if you can demonstrate that you can do 100% of your job remotely. The pandemic fundamentally changed the nature of office work; it'll never be like it was before and I'm glad.

Funi0nz
Funi0nz
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I do IT work for NYCHA. I've been going in to work 5 days a week since September 2021 :(

GoRangers5
GoRangers5
5 · 10 days ago · Reddit

What’s stopping these jobs from getting outsourced? If I’m some corporate asshole, I’m licking my chops to lay-off my remote workforce and replace them with overseas workers that will take 1/​4th of the salary.

mr-myagi20
mr-myagi20
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I doubt it will ever be 5 days a week again. If you're top talent that wants to work from home and your boss tries to get you in everyday you'd leave, and probably get a 30% raise in the process.

I dont think NYC is dead, but it won't ever be the same. Once these real estate lobbyists belly up, maybe then they can turn those places into affordable housing and make manhattan a place you'd want to live without having to give so much up.

urbanlife78
urbanlife78
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

So Manhattan must be a bit of a ghost town these days. It will be interesting when these businesses realize that a few days a week in the office doesn't work and ends up going with just scheduling workers to come in on an as needed basis when it comes to major meetings or collaboration work.

Asking4Afren
Asking4Afren
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

My office is located in downtown Manhattan returned to hybrid 2 days in the office. Everyone fucking hates it. We can do everything we've done at the office at home. Not a single thing. They don't restrict us how long we HAVE to stay in the office though so it's like we show face, stay a few hours, chat with a few people we could have via Teams and leave.

It's a fucking DRAG. I just had a newborn 4/​22 and tomorrow I have to go in to show face just so they stop asking me to use my vacation days since it seems like me not coming in might be an issue.

It's holding me back because that 2 hour to travel can be used to make the calls I need to from home. Is this Adam's idea entirely? Is there tax breaks companies are getting to force the return? We've had several meetings on returning and on how we felt about returning.

They've been completely remote for 2 years. It seems like the office space is not needed and that money can go to other shit.

The office space also is nice but we're all in like cubicle like settings besides management who are behind glass rooms. You hear everyone's conversations and you're self conscious about people being so close or hearing or seeing what you do on your computer.

I'm happy to see good employees pushing back by going to companies that offer fully remote.

PIZT
PIZT
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

Going back to work in an office building is like going back to receiving letters by snail mail

Pave_Low
Pave_Low
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

I’m not required to be in the office 5 days a week but I am. Jesus after two years stuck at home it’s a fucking blessing to go to the office. Granted my commute is a Manhattan walk. If it was a train from Jersey I doubt I’d feel this way.

mattjoseph1995
mattjoseph1995
5 · 9 days ago · Reddit

While I feel bad for the businesses in the city that are affected by fewer commuters (lunch spots, delis, coffee shops, etc.) I can't blame people for staying home if the work can get done from there. Commuting to the city every day was hellacious. Companies will also save obscene amounts of money if they don't have to lease office space.