Half of NYC drivers not moving cars for Alternate Side Parking, sanitation chief says

New York City will resume street sweeping in July, meaning the holiday for Alternate Side Parking violators will officially be over.

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satyrnretyrn
satyrnretyrn
773 · 7 days ago · Reddit

In my neighborhood you’d be guaranteed one $65 ticket/​week. $260/​month. Not bad really compared with the price of a garage.

MeatballMadness
MeatballMadness
259 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Funny because the small used car dealership in my neighborhood has like 40 cars on the surrounding streets they just never move (one Volvo sedan has been sitting on the street corner with a flat tire for at least a year now). Never seen them ticketed once so they must have some sort of deal going on with the cops.

SexyEdMeese
SexyEdMeese
92 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Unsurprising, 95% of the time there is no ticket, so it's a good bet. The streets by my apartment haven't been properly cleaned in months, it's a revolting mess of partially decomposed trash and dead rats out there.

They should just have NYPD Traffic drive along behind the sweeper issuing tickets. It would pay for itself like 5x over. Also raise the price of the tickets to actually hurt.

fuzzmasterflex
fuzzmasterflex
85 · 7 days ago · Reddit

In my neighborhood most people just sit in their parked cars without moving them for the whole 90 min. So they can’t get a ticket and the sweeper can’t do it’s job. See this ALL the time.

martin
martin
72 · 7 days ago · Reddit

It's just one datapoint - but in multiple neighborhoods over the years, I have always seen 90% of cars do the dance, even now - so half doesn't seem right.
At the same time, I've seen street cleaners just tear down the CENTER of the street 10 minutes before the start of ASP, and seen people get ticketed after leaving their cars 5 minutes before the end of the window.

mowotlarx
mowotlarx
59 · 7 days ago · Reddit

If only we had a massive police force tasked with traffic enforcement!

friendshipperson1
friendshipperson1
59 · 7 days ago · Reddit

So the stick ($100+ fine) isn’t working, what’s the carrot? 10% off insurance for cars with no alternate side tickets in one year?

zedsalive
zedsalive
28 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Alternate Side Parking in NYC is such a joke. A lot of the time the street cleaner does not even come, which means people are idling and moving their cars for no reason other than avoiding paying the city a fine. This is increasing pollution, taking up New Yorker's time and means that often during rush hour, there are cars moving around and clogging up traffic flow.

Also, at least in my neighborhood, the majority of people just move their car over to the other side and double park. What the fuck is the point of that? Double parking in NYC is illegal--yet NYPD never tickets these people that move to the other side of the street. What is the point then?

Not to mention that I have seen no noticeable difference in the cleanliness of the streets since it has been once a week compared to back when it was twice a week. I genuinely believe the return to twice a week has nothing to do with wanting the streets to be cleaner, but simply doubles the chances of the city earning revenue from people who do not want to or are unable to move their car that day.

What I don't understand is why we can't just make a resident parking system, or have NYPD Traffic start scanning people's registrations to see if they are registered in the five boroughs. Start ticketing and towing commercial vehicles parked overnight, people parking with out of state plates, and tow and auction cars with fake plates. Create a system for resident parking where residents of New York pay a fee to be able to park on alternate side streets, and people from out of state can stop coming in and clogging our neighborhoods.

We could also easily make street cleaning something that happens once or twice a month only. Make it a more in-depth situation where the street cleaner comes with a team of workers who actually make sure that all the dirt and litter gets cleaned up. Increase the fine for not moving your car because it happens more infrequently--or better yet, just tow and impound those people.

The solution is not to now double the amount of time New Yorkers spend idling their cars for 1.5 hours while they wait for a street cleaner that never comes, but are unable to just leave their car parked because the traffic enforcement officer will still show up and give you a ticket.

jkevinhill
jkevinhill
24 · 7 days ago · Reddit

First of all , I’d never believe a city flunky about anything that has a direct impact to his agenda. In Sunnyside it’s closer to 80 percent certain that you’d get a ticket . And if you don’t get a ticket that means THEY didn’t come through or the car that writes the tickets wasn’t present. Why not? To blindly say that people aren’t moving their cars doesn’t answer are they ticketing .

Mycotoxicjoy
Mycotoxicjoy
23 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Resident parking permits would be a solution. Only NY plates allowed to street park would remove NJ, Florida, Penn, and Mass plates as blockers

throwaway15172013
throwaway15172013
20 · 7 days ago · Reddit

My garage is $650 a month, of course people don’t move their cars

Alittlebitflagyl
Alittlebitflagyl
20 · 7 days ago · Reddit

I’ve been reporting this car that has been in our street since February, to 311. Hasn’t moved. They say they can’t do anything because they have fake paper plates on it.

FishCantHoldGuns
FishCantHoldGuns
13 · 7 days ago · Reddit

I take great pains to park my car for the correct ASP day, as does a vast majority of my block, and the street sweeper still hasn't hit my block in about a month.

mac117
mac117
11 · 7 days ago · Reddit

I was away for the weekend and I figured I couldn’t leave my car on the street due to no one being able to move it Friday morning. I put it in a garage. I then cursed myself because the ticket would’ve been cheaper than the garage

vowelqueue
vowelqueue
10 · 7 days ago · Reddit

If the city cared about cleaning the streets then I'm not sure why they're not towing cars.

They've set the ticket price and ramifications so low that it's hard to imagine that the ASP is being treated as anything but a revenue source to extract a couple hundred per month from car owners who view it as a cheaper alternative to a parking garage spot.

If you actually cleared out all the streets via towing then the street sweepers would also be more effective and probably not need to run 2 times per week.

mimetic_polyalloy
mimetic_polyalloy
10 · 7 days ago · Reddit

In my neighborhood (Manhattan), I'd say it's closer to 80% that are moving their cars. What's strange is the street sweeper frequently doesn't even come. What a dumb system.

AerysBat
AerysBat
8 · 7 days ago · Reddit

They should switch to paid street parking permits instead of this random-collection parking fee system

Candyman1801
Candyman1801
8 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Every week with all the cars moved, I still had to call the depot to come clean my street. Most of the times I would get all kind of excuses as to why the sweeper never came. When people notice that sanitation is not keeping their schedules, they then stop moving their cars.

tempura_calligraphy
tempura_calligraphy
7 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Why should they move their cars, with those outdoor cafe monstrosities that haven’t moved in like 2 years, collect trash and grime, and help increase the rat population. Some are part-time homeless shelters.

ca-cynmore
ca-cynmore
6 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Because you don't come and clean them. I speak for my block.

tsgram
tsgram
5 · 7 days ago · Reddit

Here in Brooklyn so many cars have out-of-state plates they probably don’t even need to pay the ticket

HayPlaceAPlaceforHay
HayPlaceAPlaceforHay
5 · 7 days ago · Reddit

No way this is true, and if it is, it's because they work for the police, fire department, or have some other status that lets them ignore laws.

cobrakook
cobrakook
5 · 7 days ago · Reddit

I love how the street sweepers go by and just push everything on to the sidewalk.

Alt side parking is a money making scheme.