NYC’s rat problem is getting worse as calls to cut back outdoor dining intensify
This year has seen the most reported rat sightings in at least a decade — with as many through July 2022 as in all of 2020 or 2019. According to city data, through July 31 there have been more than 16,000 rat sightings, compared to just under 14,000 in the same timeframe last year. In both 2020 and...
Weirdly enough, whenever I see rats these days, and I see them a lot... there seem to be a lot of bags of garbage piled along the curb. I know correlation is not causation, but maybe if the city figured out a way to get rid of all that garbage without letting it sit there for hours?
We actually solve this shit by containerized garbage and improving DSNY pickup, but instead we have NIMBYS pretending that eating outdoors is the real answer. People like eating outdoors, you insufferable Karens.
*piles and piles of garbage bags on the street for hours*
- Yes the problem are outdoor restaurants
A real way to keep rats from getting to garbage is needed. Is it some insurmountable technological marvel to keep rats out of garbage?
As long as our commercial trash solution is throwing bags in the street that private trash companies pick up, we will always have this issue. The rats are eating from the trash, not outdoor dining.
Right nothing to do with the mounds of garbage bags. Classic old NIMBY crap. Remove parking spaces to have in ground containers for garbage where rats can't get into. Remove the food supply, reduce the population.
I don’t care much for the outdoor dining huts but it’s ridiculous to think that’s the problem.
Al fresco dining is fine, bulky sheds sitting everywhere blocking visibility is not. We should address the rat problem and also compel shed owners to not impede sight lines on the sidewalks and streets. In some areas it's like living in a maze. European style cafe seating makes way more sense. I understand we jumped to sheds without much debate because of economic and safety considerations early in the pandemic, but the emergency is over and if we're going to have al fresco dining long term, we need to do it right.
And of course there are many abandoned sheds that mostly used as rat havens and toilets for vagrants.
How is outdoor dining the reason and not the heaps of trash on the street lmao
NYC: has literal centuries-long rat problem and leaves garbage literally everywhere all the time.
Also NYC: dining al fresco is the problem!
What I’ve noticed by me is that while yes they are eating the garbage they are living in the outdoor structures. Quite frankly I grew up here and I have never seen this many rats. To blame solely the garbage is incorrect. The problem comes from some space underneath required for drainage giving them condos beside the buffet. I would love to see a required solution added to the structures that allows for drainage without letting the critters in.
Stray street cats. A lot of them.
It is good for moral as well. It’s a stressful day? Pet one fucker roaming the street and you’ll feel better
Lets be real here, 20 years ago the nyc department of sanitation started handing out tickets for misplaced garbage in a bin. Recycling mixed with garbage etc... passerbys would just toss trash into a bin so its not on the floor and the building or tennent now has a ticket. now nobody has garbage bins and the bags sit on the curb every dam night. Not to say the garbage pails are an end all solution but its a start.
Gutter huts - they all have rats living under them now. I would never eat in one.
We need to roll back outdoor dining to how it used to be: restaurants allowed to put tables outside on the sidewalk with an awning, barriers, heaters but nothing more. The sidewalk sheds need to go: especially those that are actually in the street. They were only ever meant to be a temporary measure anyway.
If sidewalk sheds in the street become permanent, the additional square footage needs to be taxed and much more strongly regulated.
seems like an unlimited food supply for those with imagination 🐁🐁🐁
We had rats way before outdoor dining. Just containerize the trash like everyone has been saying.
I think I spotted more of them now too after hurricane Ida hit NY. Like the rat dwellings flooded and forced them to nest in other places. I literally encountered a family of rats eating garbage by the tall grass on my walk home. Shame I didn’t have a pokéball
I feel like we could get more active in killing them off too. I’ve seen vids of people with dogs that go ratting on farms and also have air guns and night vision to shoot them dead but NYC isn’t ideal for these methods.
Serious question: why don’t they put rat bait stations out with contraceptive. Stop the repopulation. Solve the problem.
There are outdoor street side seating for restaurants all over the world.
Weirdly enough the solution is probably bring a southern hemisphere snake to NYC and release thousands of them. Preferably a non poison one.
They'll die out in winter
Rats just come with NYC lol used to hear them scratching the wall when i lived next to abandoned building across from what now is Amy Ruth’s. When they started construction the rats move, which also brings bedbug because they’re on the rats. I think it’s the trash, the condemned buildings, the construction project, and so on. What ever you do they will adapt.
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