NYC bill would prohibit landlords from doing background checks on new tenants

New York City may ban private landlords from doing background checks on prospective tenants. Opponents warn that murderers could move into buildings without anyone knowing about it.

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drpvn
drpvn
518 · 2 months ago · Reddit

So if this becomes law, and if I owned a house and wanted to rent out one of the floors, what rational things would I do to minimize the chances that I was renting to someone with a problematic criminal history?

FreightProgram
FreightProgram
453 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Like every other rent related policy/​regulation from the city this will backfire and lead to more rent inequality based on "other" methods of profiling.

holiday1020
holiday1020
268 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Nyc local gov. forces landlords to resort to profiling their applicants in the absence of access to the background check.

die-microcrap-die
die-microcrap-die
119 · 2 months ago · Reddit

I hate NYC landlords, but this law is bullshit.

If anything, besides background checks, people need a psych eval.

I have suffered for the last 15 years due to crazy upstairs neighbors that seriously have mental issues.

fieryscribe
fieryscribe
75 · 2 months ago · Reddit

The Fair Chance for Housing Act prohibits criminal background checks – it doesn’t prohibit landlords from vetting tenants.

Someone smarter than me could create a club or union of renters who have been pre-vetted. Since it's a club and not a landlord, they could conduct a criminal background check. Then landlords could use that as a proxy.

NetQuarterLatte
NetQuarterLatte
54 · 2 months ago · Reddit

The NYC Council is giving another example of policy that tries to protect a tiny subject of people while making it worse for almost everyone else (with certain privileged groups immune, as usual).

If a landlord is not able to know if you're a convicted arsonist that will risk burning down the building (for example), they will try judge you based on factors that are a lot more subjective.

claushauler
claushauler
49 · 2 months ago · Reddit

The irony is that NYCHA public housing will still be required to do criminal background checks as per Federal law. Everyone else: hope your new (former) racist prison gang member with a conviction for arson as a hate crime neighbor is quiet after 11pm.

muu411
muu411
41 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Does this only apply to criminal background checks, or all background checks such as job history reports, etc?

It seems like all this would do is cause landlords to rely more on current tax documents/​pay stubs, etc to verify income. Many tenants aren’t going to want to live somewhere that could be renting to a violent criminal next door, so they’ll increasingly look for places which either, 1) Enforce even stricter requirements to rent (increase the 40x rent requirement, refuse to accept co-signers altogether, etc), or 2) simply find ways to skirt the process by using some kind of 3rd party - it wouldn’t shock me at all if we see business pop up which allow tenants to obtain some sort of “certification” to provide to a landlord. It could be very difficult to enforce oversight to prevent landlords from choosing to reject potential tenants who don’t have the certification.

Either way, this just makes it more expensive/​difficult to rent, and puts most of the burden on renters.

Wouldn’t a more logical solution be to, 1) expand the range of non-violent crimes which are required to be removed from background check reports requested by landlords (this has essentially already been done for employers requesting background checks), and 2) reduce the amount of time more serious/​violent crimes stay on your record?

At the end of the day, I agree that someone who has turned their life around and proven they will stay out of trouble for an adequate period of time should not have that follow them around forever. At the same time, it’s completely reasonable for people not to want potentially violent criminals, who may have only been recently released from prison and are likely still adjusting after re-entering society, living next door to them.

jmacks88
jmacks88
24 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Absolutely deranged. If they keep going down this path of prioritizing criminals over the safety of innocent civilians, we have no choice but to either leave or get armed to the teeth

I_Cut_Shoes
I_Cut_Shoes
21 · 2 months ago · Reddit

A lot of these policies just feel like the left wing version of "if we stop counting covid deaths then there won't be any covid deaths".

TetraCubane
TetraCubane
21 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Lol what? So if you don't wanna rent to someone with a criminal history, now there is no way to check?

HiFiGuy197
HiFiGuy197
18 · 2 months ago · Reddit

“The year was 2040 and no one in the Democratic Party could figure out whether it was one event, or a string of events, that turned New York Republican…”

gunhed76
gunhed76
18 · 2 months ago · Reddit

This is more progressive bullshit, When I was younger and lived in Jackson heights our landlord rented a room to some weird dude who turned out to be a pedo because she didn't believe in background checks, she always met with the renters, and about 3 months he sexually abused a girl who lived 2 floors from me in the staircase, criminal background checks, and credit weed out on degenerates like this. plus it's the owner's property, all that should matter is not being bigoted by race, sexual preference or religion, but criminal backgrounds, its the persons responsibility to not do rotten shit in their lives, not the landlords

jackblack16
jackblack16
12 · 2 months ago · Reddit

This kind of stupid. We should at less know if they have criminal record. You do not want killers and pedo's in the same build as kids. I am not trying judege people but I think is best to know if someone have record. Best to know if it's something light or something really mess up.

therealowlman
therealowlman
12 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Wtf dumb law is that. Can we focus on killing broker fees instead? That useless “tax” catalyzes housing / rent inflation.

edaduas
edaduas
11 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Yeah, let's jeopardize the safety of every other tenants for the benefit of few. You're fucked if you're too poor to afford an apartment all to yourself and have to share an apartment with other roommates.

burnshimself
burnshimself
10 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Another tangible sign our city’s politicians are uninterested in improving things and only care about claiming ethical superiority by passing bills that give them the moral high ground to pontificate from.

NutellaBananaBread
NutellaBananaBread
6 · 2 months ago · Reddit

If you raise the risk of renting, rent goes up.

stewartm0205
stewartm0205
6 · 2 months ago · Reddit

What we need is the equivalent of credit checks for tenants. A really bad tenant not only ruin it for the landlord but also for the other tenants.

rextilleon
rextilleon
6 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Another example of why there is no hope for the future of NYC.

Theriggerswife
Theriggerswife
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

My building doesn’t allow sex crime convictions in the building. I’m very thankful for that.

3_gloves
3_gloves
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Why not? Isn’t that just public records? I mean if anyone should have a right to know. The person who owned and potentially lived in the property they’ll be living in. They should definitely know.

blosweed
blosweed
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

That’s pretty fucked. You should have a right to know who you’re renting your property to.

bkornblith
bkornblith
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

We really just need functional, well built, affordable housing. Build a million units and poof, every problem will mostly solve itself.

batgamerman
batgamerman
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

Who making these law people don't want pedo or murder next to them we need stop this insanity that destroy California

KidAstoria
KidAstoria
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

So pedophiles could get an apartment right across the street from a school?

Nouseforaname4
Nouseforaname4
5 · 2 months ago · Reddit

might as well ban businesses doing them on employees as well