'We will not let public down': EMS union head talks vaccine mandate shortages

With New York City's COVID vaccine mandate deadline looming for all city workers, including first responders, there are concerns of a shortage in FDNY personnel come Monday. With uniformed EMS officers are among the most-vaccinated first responders,...

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El_Gato
El_Gato
174 · a year ago · Reddit

No shit. Just like all the other vaccination temper tantrums.

tbs222
tbs222
116 · a year ago · Reddit

I posted this elsewhere, but here's some helpful context as it relates to EMS.

FDNY EMS and the firefighters are both part of FDNY obviously, but EMS is a separate bureau. EMS employees are vaccinated at a higher rate than firefighters are. It was posted yesterday that 80% of EMS were vax'd in relation to 65% of firefighters.

Also, FDNY does not provide all of the ambulances in the city. About 35-40% are hospital-provided (but still dispatched by FDNY). Most of these hospitals already have implemented vaccine mandates, so these providers are not at risk.

Last, a fair numbers of FDNY EMS providers are hoping to take the promotional exam to become a firefighter. So, for many of them, it would seem that a potential exodus of firefighters, would only serve to increase their chances of getting hired, so there's an incentive here for them to stay on and get vax'd - even if they're reluctant.

omnibot5000
omnibot5000
48 · a year ago · Reddit

Wait, are they saying a group of people who have been crying for months about how the soul of this country rides on their ability to decline a vaccine, not wear a mask, and bop around spewing Covid with no restrictions might actually be EXAGGERATING?

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106
34 · a year ago · Reddit

So I’ve been completely vaccinated since January—and I’ve lost track of how many vaccine appointments I’ve made for coworkers and friends.

My sister is a teacher (and about twenty years older than I am). I haven’t spoken to her as much as I should’ve during COVID, but oh boy: she’s gone off the deep end.

Ranting about the vaccine and it’s safety, masks and their efficacy (that they “don’t work” but also that they “trap CO2”). She cried for days. She marched with people protesting the vaccine mandate. She tried to bribe the vaccine provider ($5000 in cash).

She got the shot on the last day. She’s very unhappy. Like, she’s a sexual assault survivor and compared getting the vaccine to being raped. Unhinged.

I tried to say reasonable things—really anything to gently guide her back to reality. Eventually I gave up and asked her if she really wanted to talk about COVID, and we changed the subject. When we were talking about other things she sounded a lot more like herself.

The only reason she got the shot is because the DOE forced her. Now she “hates her job” and “doesn’t give a shit.” (A temporary tantrum? Maybe.)

I recognize that her position here is stupid and selfish, but overall she’s not a stupid person or a selfish person. She’s been a dedicated teacher as long as I’ve known her. She worked throughout COVID and was a “hero.”

She’s more working class than I am, but she’s also more education on paper—and maybe more practical: she busted her ass late in life to get her masters while working.

I don’t know what I’m trying to say here. My sister is a person. All of the nurses and doctors and firefighters and stewardesses refusing are people. Most of them worked in person in some capacity through the pandemic. I suspect a lot of them have been poisoned by organized misinformation, on top of the blind spots and natural ignorances we all have.

If you support vaccine mandates you should be happy the city took the position it has. But I’m not angry at all of the outrage, I’m just disappointed.

hitliquor999
hitliquor999
22 · a year ago · Reddit

Firefighters and police work shifts which means that there is always a pool of people to come in on their off days on overtime to fill any open spots.

Even if people refuse at first out of solidarity they won’t refuse an extra $700-1000+ per week to pick up an extra shift for too long.

LennyNero
LennyNero
5 · a year ago · Reddit

I know someone who is an EMT and pro-covid (I say this because none of the person's other vaccinations seem to be in question, as seems the case for most pro-coviders)...

This person's reasoning is that if EMTs either had covid or didn't, working through the peak of the pandemic, at this point a vaccine is not going to help.

I am so happy that with the mandate, this person and other like-minded imbeciles will get the hell away from being involved in healthcare.

ADustedEwok
ADustedEwok
5 · a year ago · Reddit

There are entire firehouses not in service atm. Source roommate is firefighter.

SlideGrouchy5211
SlideGrouchy5211
5 · a year ago · Reddit

NYC needs to work on its hiring practices because these people should have never been hired in the first place if they think they can work in a community and be unvaccinated. Maybe ask this upfront.