SF's Bay to Breakers refuses to award nonbinary runners

Other prominent marathons and long-distance races, including the New York City Marathon and the Philadelphia Distance Run, have begun to fully embrace nonbinary runners — introducing new categories with separate awards for them. Zackary Harris is...

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8to24
8to24
220 · 7 days ago · Reddit

There are awards given for fastest male and female overall. Then awards for males and females in different age groups. These age group awards are not meaningful in terms of national rating or money. Having a non-binary category wouldn't impact anything.

My guess is logistically they just dropped the ball. Reformatting spreadsheets and tracking software just wasn't doable in the timeframe when they started fielding the requests. Hopefully next year they get it resolved.

Rooster-Training
Rooster-Training
88 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Seriously... this... this is what makes people upset now? Grow the fuck up

BanzaiTree
BanzaiTree
41 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Are athletics split into “men” & “women” due to biological differences between the two sexes or is it because one group prefers to present masculine and the other feminine?

Icy_Ad_1746
Icy_Ad_1746
23 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Meh, first world issues... There's kinda a much bigger thing going on at the moment for ladies that needs help and fighting.

jslifesf
jslifesf
22 · 6 days ago · Reddit

City mandate: Participation awards for everyone! That'll show 'em.

(Kidding! Hold the pitchforks and torches...:))

DMTwolf
DMTwolf
19 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Such a first world problem lmao

Cry me a river

mamielle
mamielle
16 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Male and female in this context refers to sex. Gender is fluid but sex is binary and immutable.

Edit to add: sure you can add a non binary category but someone of the male sex will surely win it.

KeyBoardCentral
KeyBoardCentral
13 · 6 days ago · Reddit

How many awards would one expect the organizers to have? How many genders are there?

PassengerStreet8791
PassengerStreet8791
13 · 6 days ago · Reddit

What about ‘guys with blue shirt’ runners?

Downvoted in 3..2..1

daaamber
daaamber
13 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Is everyone on SF reddit right wing now? Why are you down voting anyone who dislikes this? This is fucking SF. If there is gonna be a nonbinary category in sports, it absolutely should happen here.

VMoney9
VMoney9
10 · 6 days ago · Reddit

This comment section is a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck and I love all of you.

ShariBambino
ShariBambino
8 · 6 days ago · Reddit

This race has sex categories and age categories. Non-binary is not a sex or age class. Non-binary people are still either male or female.

It seems to me that a non-binary category is a great way to crap all over transmen (females who identify as men). How in the world would a transman every win anything in a non-binary category competing against male-bodied people? (And no, testosterone does not level the playing field. Having gone through male puberty imparts physical benefits that cannot be leveled.) I'd be curious to know if transmen actually compete in the non-binary category of this race or compete in the female category where they may actually have a chance of winning. In general transmen tend to continue to compete in female categories because it would be nearly impossible to win anything, to be truly competitive, competing against male-bodied people.

barce
barce
6 · 6 days ago · Reddit

The comments are a good gauge of how terfy reddit is. But actual data in SF and past voting patterns beg to differ. The comments here make Calgary, Canada way more friendly to all runners. Try the drive from Whitefish (a MAGA militia town & former home of Richard Spencer) with its beat up streets & log buildings from the Wild West days to Calgary. About a click or so away, green trees, rushing waters of a river and silver buildings like out of a sci-fi movie.

Shakespurious
Shakespurious
5 · 6 days ago · Reddit

Wow, kinda seems like a mountain out of a molehill, given that gender dysphoria is super rare, maybe 1 in 100,000, depending on the studies.

Zero36
Zero36
5 · 6 days ago · Reddit

It’s ok to disagree with something but you should at least understand what you are arguing again. Non-binary is that they are not solely male or female, not that they have transitioned genders

quixoticcaptain
quixoticcaptain
5 · 6 days ago · Reddit

In general we haven't solved the problem of gender identity in sports. Most people realize it makes no sense to have a male-bodied person to compete with women because they identify as female.

Rather than a NB award, they should compete for the award of the gender that their body resembles.