BART considers cutting weekend service amid low ridership

The Bay Area's largest transit agency is considering drastic measures to replace its funding model — such as cutting weekend service — as it attempts to resolve the financial instability spurred by the pandemic. BART is looking ahead to 2025, when...

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AgentK-BB
AgentK-BB
878 · 15 days ago · Reddit

That's not how transit is supposed to work....

Transit must be available during hours and days of low ridership. Otherwise, people will be forced to own cars. Once you own a car, the economics changes for you, and it is often cheaper for you to drive instead of taking transit.

smellgibson
smellgibson
329 · 15 days ago · Reddit

I just wish I could transfer my muni fare to bart and vice versa. The fact that I need to pay like $7 each way if I wanna go grab lunch or dinner in Oakland from SF is annoying

InTheScannerDarkly
InTheScannerDarkly
303 · 15 days ago · Reddit

I don't ride it on the weekends because service is minimal as is. This will only make it worse. 😞

meaningoflifeis69
meaningoflifeis69
207 · 15 days ago · Reddit

If they want to increase ridership, they should add hours and increase service. Make it so that riding the BART is more convenient than driving. Have service that goes till 3AM on weekends.

Hi_Im_Ken_Adams
Hi_Im_Ken_Adams
129 · 15 days ago · Reddit

The problem is that BART doesn't go everywhere that people need to go when they want to travel into the city for the evening. People don't just want to go to Market St.

And since BART doesn't have service after midnight on the weekends, who is going to take BART to go to a bar or nightclub?

You need BART out in the avenues.....the Richmond and Sunset districts.

Zero_Waist
Zero_Waist
62 · 15 days ago · Reddit

As a business owner who has employees that rely on Bart to get to work on off hours I am really not excited about this news.

starvingape
starvingape
42 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Well. That’s one way to guarantee to further reduce ridership.

CaliMoonGoddess
CaliMoonGoddess
36 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Everyone is talking about the convenience of having a car but as someone with no car who has to rely on public transportation this is devastating. I won’t be able to go anywhere except work during the week

fortuna_cookie
fortuna_cookie
34 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Wave of transit citation increase + news of BART and Muni calamities this week probably aren’t isolated… input and output.

If people don’t want to pay the fare (like so many people in this subreddit) then the City / Fed has to back it up with funding from tax $$

abakedcarrot
abakedcarrot
25 · 15 days ago · Reddit

I was going to take my kid out to Civic Center to see a show but I don't want to walk my kid through that shitty station. BART needs to clear out its stations if it wants ridership.

difastcyclist
difastcyclist
25 · 15 days ago · Reddit

They would need to figure out how to make BART safe and enforce those people who doesn’t pay to ride BART first.

RedditismyBFF
RedditismyBFF
20 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Supervisors and high-up employees like directors should be forced to take mass transit.

Way too many city vehicles which employees take home, and have been caught speeding throughout the city

Audit Raises Questions About San Francisco's City Workers' Take-Home Vehicles

Of the incidents within the city, 18,111 were at speeds of 20 to 29.9 mph over the posted speed limit. Other incidents occurred outside the city.

Apprehensive_Ring_46
Apprehensive_Ring_46
18 · 15 days ago · Reddit

First off, this is all just a scare campaign to gin up support for the future ballot measures for more money for transit.

Second, prior to the pandemic, BART was more concerned with being a social services agency pandering to the homeless and the fare gate jumpers than providing safe transit for the paying riders. And now they wonder why the riders are not flocking back to the trains. The condition of BART is one of the reasons work from home is so attractive in this region.

coleman57
coleman57
17 · 15 days ago · Reddit

My son and I rode from Balboa to Embarcadero on Sunday and long trains were pretty full both ways, early afternoon and evening. And they were running <15 minutes apart, and arrived pretty full both directions, so not just locals

autofunk
autofunk
15 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Why not just add express lines to BART if you want to see ridership go up?

PlanktonSignal8469
PlanktonSignal8469
14 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Really that’s crazy! I saw a train today that looked like it hadn’t been washed since 1987.

elatedwalrus
elatedwalrus
13 · 15 days ago · Reddit

As a newcomer to the bay my genuine curiosity is why doesnt SF and surrounding counties tax the mega rich people here to keep their transit running at a reasonable cost? SF in particular is supposed to be this ultra progressive place but cant figure out how to move people around who dont have a car

70% fare recovery model?? Thats crazy high! Should be heavily subsidized

jackieiscool12
jackieiscool12
13 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Bart is my main form of transportation. This would suck so much.

justinothemack
justinothemack
10 · 15 days ago · Reddit

The problem is Bart has been corrupt as fuck for decades with their striking for no reason and overpaid employees. They don’t have enough money to cover the ridiculous salaries now because Bart sucks, instead of expanding service and making Bart better to ride corrupt Bart has just been pocketing tax money. If they would be 24 hours or maybe had expanded to the Central Valley or into vallejo and beyond it would be much more useful to people who commute into the inner bay. But no they just ask for raises and use the monopoly of having the only subway around, well people got tired of it and would rather just sit in their cars. Good job Bart.

yoloismymiddlename
yoloismymiddlename
10 · 15 days ago · Reddit

They won’t do it.

This is just them scaring people into giving another bond/​tax measure instead of fixing the fare evasion, train availability, safety, and hygiene problems. Yes, ridership went down and they need to close a gap, but the gap can either close from cutting overhead salaries (I think they’re executives make $300K+ each) or from a taxpayer bailout. They’ve chose the bailout, and they’re using the media to scare people into voting for it.

Karazl
Karazl
8 · 15 days ago · Reddit

BART: we don't have enough riders. I know, let's be even less useful, that will solve it!

Even the threat of this is going to depress ridership further.

Unicycldev
Unicycldev
7 · 15 days ago · Reddit

The data in the article shows the BART ridership numbers have stagnated at ~35% of pre-pandemic number. What are the root causes to low ridership? Who is no longer riding?

My best guess is 1. Work From Home 2. Safty.

I personally avoid the system because of the frequent collisions with persons who need mental health support or where frequently threatening. It really kept happening over and over and I don't feel safe.

chiaramente3
chiaramente3
7 · 15 days ago · Reddit

I think if they had more service on the weekends they’d get more ridership, especially if service continued until bars close at 2 or 3am

sumofabatch
sumofabatch
5 · 15 days ago · Reddit

Yea this isn’t the answer. Maybe pay Bart execs far less as a start…

RocketScient1st
RocketScient1st
5 · 15 days ago · Reddit

How are they measuring ridership? Hope it’s not by fares paid 😂😂😂