TTC union calls for new policy that would temporarily halt service during some major snow events

A union representing TTC workers is calling for a new policy that could temporarily halt service during some major snow events after more than 500 buses were left stranded on the roads during Monday’s storm.

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Stavkot23
Stavkot23
260 · 10 months ago · Reddit

There were 3 busses still stuck at Finch by Brimley today (Tuesday, day after storm) when I went to work in the morning.

If there's no viable way to outfit busses to drive in this snow then suspending service makes sense.

reddditttt12345678
reddditttt12345678
90 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Makes sense to me, at least for buses.

All they accomplished yesterday was stranding people for hours and blocking the road for other essential services.

Also, they should refund all fares from yesterday.

LegoLady47
LegoLady47
82 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Toronto needs to learn how to remove snow, not just push it around. When I lived in Montreal, they got 5 feet of snow in less than 24 hours and had combines blowing snow from the road into trucks (7 in total) behind it collecting the snow and sidewalk plows that made paths for people who walked.

theLRG21
theLRG21
62 · 10 months ago · Reddit

We seriously need to better protect our public transport infrastructure. Working in Downtown but living out in Scarborough, how the hell will I get home if highways, GO trains and TTC are all closed? Especially when sections of the subway are closed indefinitely.

Edit: I totally agree with the Union in the article, the TTC buses were a hinderance to others when they got stuck, and it is needlessly dangerous for drivers and riders. We just need to have a plan in place for folks to get home during these storms, and assurance that employers can't fire workers if they can't make their shift and the workers should still be paid for the day. With the effects climate change worsening, I expect these storms to become more frequent. It would be stupid if the city was still unprepared.

JohnPlayerSpecia1
JohnPlayerSpecia1
49 · 10 months ago · Reddit

yes but as long as TTC rider can have job protection from being fired when TTC halts service

PhoneVastOrganic
PhoneVastOrganic
48 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Just give every torontonian $1000 for cross country ski equipment

Better-Computer-8480
Better-Computer-8480
44 · 10 months ago · Reddit

This is such a dumb idea. People still need to get to critical jobs, unless the TTC conveniently forgets about all the nurses, hydro workers, and other people that keep our services running. I think the better solution is to invest in more frequent snow plowing and consolidate routes that are difficult to drive in and make appropriate detours/​skipping stops on hills (looking at you finch east hill). Oh and snow training would help a lot.

redditthang
redditthang
27 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Stop being fucking heroes people, if there is too much snow, just call a snow day.

Ike when England gets 0.5” that’s it, gridlock.

Just come to terms with the fact that weather events are going to come fierce and faster than ever going forward and give human workers a break. No one should be expected to trudge through that level of trash for a paycheque. Just give workers a break.

callmeziplock
callmeziplock
22 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Hot take. Why not have snow removal services that remove snow?

crookcirca80
crookcirca80
22 · 10 months ago · Reddit

I agree with this. I saw dozens of stuck busses yesterday, two of which I had to wait hours for so I could continue.

konaaa
konaaa
17 · 10 months ago · Reddit

honestly the whole situation bothers the shit out of me. TTC SHOULD be able to shut down, but people insist on coming into work and bosses demand that people risk their lives to do so. The OPP literally said "Stay home from work, don't go out on the roads." and nobody listens because they can't. I'm not like, a big time police lover or anything, but if the police tell me to stay home for my own safety then that should mean something.

alexefi
alexefi
15 · 10 months ago · Reddit

ok. will they also temporally halt my job duties, with pay, which i can not do because i cant get to work?

Halfjack12
Halfjack12
13 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Would be better for most workers too. No pressure to wade through snow just to get stranded by your bus not running. If TTV service is cancelled your boss probably won't pressure you to try to get to work. I felt so bad for all the people waiting outside for shuttles that weren't coming yesterday, they should have just been able to stay home

svjeepgurl
svjeepgurl
10 · 10 months ago · Reddit

My husband is a subway operator and was forced to work 16hrs straight yesterday as almost the entire afternoon shift did not come in to work. He started work at 5:30am and didn't get a break until 6:30pm. Got off the train at 9:30pm and was stranded because he finished at a different station than where he parks and had to wait for a bus to get to his car. Another 2hrs. We live in Barrie. Because of emergency situation he was required to show up for his shift today at 5:30am. He opted to sleep at work, rather than drive home to wake up at 3am to drive back. It completely unreasonable to expect these operators to work in these conditions. Nevermind the bus drivers on busses stuck in the snow. The whole system was at a standstill. We can't expect TTC workers to put themselves at risk just to ineffectively try to move people around a city in a weather crisis. If they hadn't started in the morning far less people would have been stranded in the afternoon. And yes, as someone who lived in TO for 16 years, they need to get better at snow removal.

Torontomon2000
Torontomon2000
10 · 10 months ago · Reddit

I've seen at least 15 buses absolutely buried in today.

pureluxss
pureluxss
8 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Within a ten minute drive of my house, I saw 8 buses stuck at around 11pm. Its like a twenty year storm but probably should reserve busses for major plowed routes

Nygard776
Nygard776
5 · 10 months ago · Reddit

Pretty reasonable request considering the last major events might be considered the 2013 ice storm and snowstorms of 1999. No sense in forcing public transit to work in such conditions which will just strand people.

TO_Commuter
TO_Commuter
5 · 10 months ago · Reddit

If this becomes a thing, can we make some major snow events stat holidays? There was so much misery yesterday with people who were expected to show up at work but were unable to

kyleclements
kyleclements
5 · 10 months ago · Reddit

If the TTC agrees to pay my days' wage because they didn't want to show up to work, go for it.

When people rely on a service, it has to run.